~Speaking with Myke Hideous~

Saturday, September 26, 1998
The Tick-Tock Diner, Clifton, NJ

Myke Hideous. For me, the name conjured up the image of some horribly deformed madman. That is, until I had the pleasure of meeting him. From our first phone call, my idea - of who Myke Hideous might be - was completely shattered. He was very receptive, and had almost no inhibitions when it came to talking about his life and his music. Myke has a definitely unique charm about him, which only adds to his easy-going attitude, and friendly nature. He agreed to meet me for an interview one Saturday afternoon in Clifton, NJ at the famous "Tick-Tock Diner" on Route 3. When Myke arrived, we decided to have lunch and get to know each other. Mere moments after we took our seats, a waitress quickly moved in and asked Myke for an autograph. I thought to myself "This is crazy! People are checking him out from across the room, the waitresses are lining up to speak to him.. and I'm getting an interview!! " Finally, as  the staff cleared out, Myke pulled out a stack of Empire Hideous stuff for me - stickers, show flyers, a copy of the "Act IV - It's just a matter of time" Ep, biographical info and more. Following a quick update to the bio, we ordered, and began talking about the man that is Myke Hideous.

TVCasualty: Who is Myke Hideous ?

Myke Hideous: Who is Myke Hideous? Hmmm.. I'm not sure I understand the question.

TV: Is Myke Hideous just a name, or a persona?

MH: Let's see, after I got started with the band I started using an alias, but from the name "Empire Hideous" my friends started calling me Myke Hideous and henceforth, that's how I got the name and it was catchy so I started using it. But as far as who I am, the whole persona thing…I don't quite understand the question. Can we start again? (Laughing)

TV: That's fine.

MH: I don't know, who am I supposed to be?

TV: Is Myke Hideous a raging asshole that has to have everything his way…

MH: Sure… It's official, Myke Hideous is a cunt.

TV: Who says?

MH: All my good friends. (Laughing)

TV: So all your good friends say you're a cunt?

MH: Hmmm…well.. I was an artist - I still am an artist and over the years I just started doing artwork and I wanted to do something else. I just got into music because music is just another form - an outlet - for expression.

TV: So, at what point in your life did you decide that making music was going to be a focal point for you?

MH: I believe it was around 1987 where a friend of mine - this guy Don, and I… I had an idea…I said "Look, I wanna write some music and I wanna record it, not necessarily start a band - but write the music, go into a studio and record it, put it down for prosperity's sake." He (Don) helped me out. He was a fabulous guitarist at a very young age. I just decided that I wanted to get into it, and eventually one thing led to another and before you knew it, I had twelve songs, and the band that I was working with - the band that backed me up - or shall I say the threesome of boys that backed me up at the time, it just developed into a band and eventually we just got eager and wanted to "play out". Before ya know it, I just got so involved in writing music and I took it seriously - I probably didn't take it as serious until 1990 and things turned around for my life and I changed and music became more of an important issue to me.

TV: That was your first attempt at a band?

MH: Yeah, in fact, I already had "Empire Hideous", although we didn't have a name. I was trying out for Jerry Only's band "Kryst the Conqueror" at the same time because that's around the same time as when I met him (Jerry).

TV: So let's just take a detour and talk about "Empire Hideous" for a minute. When was it formed?

MH: The concept was probably born in 1987. It didn't become a fact until 1988. The name was born on Halloween night, in my first drummer's house down in the basement. It was foggy out that night and it was around the hour of twelve o'clock, with a full moon. My original intentions were for the band to be called "Alien Reunion" and a couple of my friends were like "You know… that sounds a lot like 'Alien Sex Fiend'…" and I said "Alright, how about 'Empire Hideous' - "The Empire Hideous" - and we went with that. They liked that better. My concept of that was "the empire" being the world and "hideous" being… not so much an adjective in the word but more like a noun. Taking the world as an empire and calling it, so to speak, "The Hideous Empire".

TV: Very interesting… so it was your "baby" from the start. The music was in your head, and you were recruiting people to help you get it down on tape.

MH: Yep.

TV: Have you had a study lineup throughout…

MH: …Absolutely not! (Laughing) I have had more fucking members in this band…

TV: …Than the "Misfits" had drummers!?

MH: Yeah, (pauses) … actually, I probably had…yeah, it was a similar amount. I've had numerous amounts of drummers, numerous amounts of guitarists and bassists. It just went on and on and on. There's just so many people that were a part of this band.

TV: Was it creative differences (that kept the lineup changing) ?

MH: My theory of the whole thing is, if you're at my level - and believe me, we weren't nothing to brag about - you're at a very low level as a local band, you don't have any record label or anybody backing you up, so it's all money, and when you join a band and here's this guy - telling you what to do all the time, it's his band, he's got the same name as the band, writing the music. Some people find that very hard to deal with and I understand, ya know - I was a real asshole years ago. I had the whole band thing, I was like "yeah I'm in a band, I'm cool, I'm this, I'm that". I realized after awhile that's not what people wanna hear, they don't wanna hear you brag about yourself and it's quite true. I just realized that people were leaving because they couldn't deal with my attitude and the fact that I was a dictator in the band. It was like working for Hitler. I'm like a militant…I stress the word militant because the way I dealt with things was religiously on schedule, and this is the way it's gotta be done, it's my way or no way at all, and that's why I had a lot of problems with the musicians.

TV: Sounds like a familiar story… now, as far as the discography or info on the band, you can go to the website for that?

MH: Sure.

TV: That's all accurate?

MH: It is up to date, in fact, the paperwork I gave you is the exact same information that is on the website. You know where that is, Empirehideous-dot-com.

TV: Tell me about "Spy Society 99".

MH: That project is literally a brand new baby. It is the demon-seed-love-child of Empire Hideous. It contains myself on vocals and guitar, and Jeff Austin who was the lead guitarist for Empire Hideous. The steady members are as follows: Myself, Jeff, there's Barry on percussion, Dyer on guitar - who we are trying to work into a bass player - and there is a guest appearance by a very good friend of mine by the name of Joe Pla…

TV: …drummer?

MH: No, he's a guitarist as well…and a composer. So, he plays guitar and does backing vocals for me. He's from a band called "Ereto-Mechanics". Between him and Jeff, the two of them are probably gonna be the best guitarists I've ever worked with --ever.

TV: What was your first Empire Hideous show like?

MH: The first show we ever did, was at a club in Newark, New Jersey, called "The Pipeline". It was with the original lineup, of course and two other bands that we had formed a coalition with called "Tri-Omen-Apparition". That was a name I came up with to form all three bands together to work with each other, to help each other. In other words, every time we got a gig, we would bring the other two bands in. In the meantime, I was working as a printer and I was printing stickers and flyers all about Empire Hideous and nobody knew who the band was. They didn't know anything about us, never heard us, never seen us, so there were these fucking stickers everywhere you looked. So, basically, by the time we booked our first show - I believe, May 30, 1988 - we had a substantial amount of people who were interested in finding out what we were all about. We drew a pretty good crowd for the very first time ever performing, there was about one hundred-fifty people there.

TV: …and the last Empire Hideous show?

MH: The last Empire Hideous show was January 1st , 1998…Let's back up. December 27th , 1997. I announced to the current lineup that I was going to break up the band. So, essentially, I kicked everybody out. We had an obligation --we had booked time at a studio to record ourselves live, on January 1st . We also had a show booked in February, and everybody was mature and responsible enough to keep their obligations. So, on January 1st , after I stayed up 'til six o'clock in the morning from the night before -partying, we all went to the studio at three o'clock in the afternoon. So, I literally had six hours of sleep, I wake up, I was smoking and drinking all night…I was so fucked up. So, we go in the studio and we recorded…I think it was about thirty-some songs. It was our old stuff - which was redone, our new stuff - which was never released, and a couple of covers. February came around, and… we used to partake in these events in New York City called "The Vampyre's Ball", which was run by a guy by the name of Sebastian, who had become very successful with these parties. He's part of an organization called "Sabretooth" ( …

TV: …Oh yeah, I saw him at the "Chiller Theatre" expo earlier this year.

MH: Right. He booked the show and we had informed him that it was gonna be our last show, so we did a mailing to everybody on our mailing list and let them know that it was gonna be our last show. The night (of the show) came, and we sold out the club. There was about six hundred to six hundred-fifty people at the club…I mean it was packed. We came out, we did our set - which was about fifty-five minutes of music - the stage show…everything that went along with Empire Hideous, and not to say too cliché , but we pretty much rocked the house that night. Everybody had a really good time. For those who (hadn't) seen us, we made new fans. For those who had already seen us, it was a sad time because they had liked the band…they were fans and supporters of it, and here I am breaking up the band. It was a lot for some people to handle, (and) I was very sad after the whole show. One thing I threw in at the end was a cover of Frank Sinatra's "My Way"…

TV: …Sid Vicious all over again…

MH: (Laughing) Sid Vicious, Frank Sinatra's "My Way". We did it in that style, Sid Vicious' style. We ended on that song because I felt that I had eventually reached this plateau where everything I've ever done for that band… (pauses) …had gone full circle. At least with the current members I had. Ya know, it was like "I did it my way", and here we are, the last day that the band would be playing together…and I was happy to say that I did it my way. After we were done, I just stood back and looked at the audience and I just saw a sea of heads and it was a great feeling know that I had inspired people to come see us and be a part of us, to like us, and by our merchandise. Here's people holding up my tee-shirts, holding up the posters…and that was a good feeling, but it was very sad. After we were done, I was downstairs and I was asked "How do you feel?" and I was very upset because everything I did was related to Empire Hideous. My life WAS Empire Hideous, and vice-versa. The only thing is…a lot of people are like "Oh, they're never gonna be around again". That's where the mistake came, with a lot of people misunderstanding what was happening. It was the final show with the current lineup. Empire Hideous - as long as I'm alive - probably will not die and I do plan on bringing it back again some day.

TV: So, if anyone would like to purchase Empire Hideous music, is the place to go?

MH: is an online company, (where you can ) buy mostly imports. KD is a good friend of mine and runs the company. In '95 or maybe '96, he was just starting up his business and I was becoming swamped with things that I was doing and I needed someone to handle my mailing list and merchandising because I literally couldn't do it anymore, and I said "KD, take over for me.", and he did. Ever since then, we've had a wonderful business relationship where he handles all my merchandising; tee-shirts, buttons, stickers, cassettes, videos, CDs…whatever.

TV: I can definitely vouch for that. I ordered some Empire Hideous stuff from them a few weeks ago to prepare for this interview, and I was quite satisfied. Now, let's get back to Myke Hideous…

MH: That would be me…

TV: We've covered a lot so far, anything you wanna add?

MH: As far as the history of the band, there's two things you can do; there's a video that we have for sale, it's a documentary on myself and the existence of Empire Hideous, shot by filmmaker Mark Steiner from New York City. It's called "To Build An Empire". It is available through It starts from the beginning (of the band) up until that point - 1995/1996. So, there's that, which gives you brief info, plus it's loaded with skits and comedy. We really put a twist into it to have a good time. Also, I'm writing a book which is going to cover my entire musical career from beginning to the present.

TV: I'm looking forward to seeing that. What artists / bands influenced you in the beginning?

MH: At the time that Empire Hideous started up, I was a huge Misfits fan. I had the haircut, the devilock, I would wear the sweat bands with the gloves… There's one particular picture of me at our second show ever played where you can see I've got my devilock down in my face, got the gloves on…everything. I looked like Glenn Danzig. I wish I had brought those pictures to show you - they're really funny. So, I was a huge Misfits fan, huge TSOL fan, I was also into Bowie, Tex and the Horseheads, Gun Club, Stiv Bators and The Lords of the New Church. All of that was part of my punk upbringing. Eventually, someone introduced me to a band by handing me a record and saying "Check these guys out.". It was a band called "Fields of the Nephilim" and I saw these guys (on the record) wearing these hats and long black coats. They were dusty and dirty and had long hair…they looked like something out of a…ghost town, or even out of the movie "The Fog"

TV: I remember that! …A John Carpenter book.

MH: Yeah, in the picture with the lead singer standing up in his long black coat, hat and everything, it's just a silhouette, and just his eyes are glowing. So, all of a sudden, I got into "Fields of the Nephilim" and fell in love with them, their style and the whole concept of it. Up until that point, I had been wearing a black hat and a long coat - I had never heard of them - and people were ridiculing me of being either "Sisters of Mercy" or "Fields of the Nephilim" ripoff, but I had never heard of "Fields of the Nephilim" and we did not sound like "Sisters of Mercy" - they were more of an electronic band. We were a post-punk band. Then, after a while, by the year 1992, I went my own way.

TV: So, as far as your current influences and your past influences, is this (motions to a wall covered with stickers of various bands) a good idea of the kind of stuff you like?

MH: No… I like collecting stickers. I'm a real sticker freak, as you can tell. My variations in music now, are all over the place.

TV: You recently filled in… no, wait, replaced Michale Graves as vocalist in the Misfits…

MH: Here's what happened. After the Empire Hideous broke up in February, there was about a two or three month "limbo" period. I went to "Chiller Theatre", which is a horror convention, and saw some old friends of mine; Jerry Only and Kenny Caiafa from the Misfits. In passing, I was talking to Kenny - just kidding around - I said "I still think you made a mistake. I still think you should have picked me when I tried out for ya in 1995. If you're ever in need of a singer, let me know." About three weeks later, I got a call from Jerry. He said to me "Hey! How'd ya like to go to South America?" It was nine o'clock in the morning and I was like "Who the hell is this?" and he says "It's Jerry" and I'm like "Okay, tell me more." He starts telling me that he had a tour booked for South America and, according to him, Michale Graves did not want to do the tour. Apparently, they were having trouble with Graves and Jerry wanted me "just to fill in" for the South American tour. I thought "Sure, what did I have to lose?" At the time, I was having a real rough time, I was very depressed because I had no band together, and it was just a time to do something. So, he (Jerry) says "Fine, come up for an audition." Somewhere in the middle of May, I went up to see Jerry, and Chud was there, and there was some guy playing guitar - I don't know who he was - I think he produced the "American Psycho" record…

TV: Daniel Rey.

MH: I think that was him. There were a couple other people around there, too. I had no idea who they were. They (Misfits) had told me a couple of songs to learn… I have all the Misfits records, everything they put out...

TV: So you had no problem with the old stuff?

MH: I had NO problem learning the old stuff. I had to learn the new stuff. So I go up there and I start auditioning…and during the middle of the second song, Kenny walks up to me and hands me a fucking board, like a piece of wood, and it said on it "get your passport, I need extra photos, get me this, get me that, blah blah. So, they said to me 'You're in, it's good'. - Ok. Fine." So I passed the audition, and a day later Kenny gets a phone call-Michale Graves quit. Somehow, Graves got wind that I auditioned for the band and they were gonna take me to South America. After hearing that, in an outrage, he quit. So I go up there and Kenny and Jerry tell me "How'd you like to go to Europe?" - "Ok." So I had ten days to learn the songs, which was about 32 songs. In the meantime, I had to pack all of my belongings and move out, go to rehearsal every other day, and get a passport. In ten days. That's how it happened. I was told that I had replaced Michale Graves. I was told that I was the new singer of the Misfits. But, it turns out that once I had left my girlfriend got online and found that there were things being said that I was being 'auditioned' to become the new singer. It wasn't like I had the part yet, I was being 'tried out' which I found very insulting. I've been doing music for ten years and I feel that I have a very strong voice. My intentions were to get into the Misfits and 'unearth' that style that had been buried after they broke up.

TV: I could imagine it probably felt like a great honor to step into the shoes of a singer of a band that you had admired for years…

MH: It certainly did. It was a whole new slice of cake for me because here I am singing for the band… but I know them so I wasn't kissing their ass, I've known them for more than ten years.

TV: How did you first meet up with them?

MH: I was working at an art studio in Paterson with a friend of mine and his friend was hanging out one day at my friend's apartment and I had a denim jacket that I had painted a picture on along with the name of the band that I had at the time "Jenny Green Teeth"…

DM: (Laughing) Jenny Green Teeth?

TV: Jenny Green Teeth. In the very corner of the jacket, I had painted "Misfits-Samhain" with a little skull. Nothing major, just what I felt like doing. So this guy sees my jacket and says "Ohhh, Misfits. My brother-in-law is in that band." And I was like "WHOA!!" - You know, it was a big thing for me, I was a big fan, so to meet them would have been a great thing. It was 1987 and I knew the band broke up in '83, so I said to him "Here's my phone number, ask him (Jerry) if he'll call me". So, I wake up one morning and I get a phone call… it's Jerry Only. (mimics Jerry's voice) "Heeeey…this is Jerry Only…" and that's how we met. He invited me up to the shop and I got to see him play, and that's when Robo was still with him. Doyle still had like dirty blond hair, it was long…it was just a whole different vibe.

TV: Did you get to sing with them then?

MH: With the Kryst the Conqueror? No, not until my audition. After awhile we became good friends, and eventually I didn't see him as an icon. I saw him as a friend.

TV: How were you received by the fans, and other band members?

MH: Let's start with the fans. I completely understood that when I stepped into the Misfits there were going to be people who either hated me or loved me and I accepted that. All of a sudden, there's a change and nobody even knew about it. It happened like that (snaps fingers). People in Europe, who didn't know what was going on are showing up at the shows thinking I'm Graves. So…how did the fans perceive me? I had trouble in the following countries: Germany and France. In France, I got spit at, I got threatened by people in the audience. In Berlin, I had these skin head guys…I refused to start trouble with anybody, especially on stage, that's not my style. I don't like fighting unless I'm being cornered and have no alternative. So I'm doing a show in Berlin and this guy's spitting at me, he threw his drink at me, and I'm like "Alright, that's okay, you paid to see me so fuck you." That was my attitude. So he's coming up closer to the stage, pointing at me saying "Come down here…" and you could see him mouthing the words "Fuck you faggot, pussy…" calling me all these names. So I start going "No, how about YOU come up HERE, because THEY'RE gonna kill YOU" I wasn't gonna hit him at all. I didn't have to, if he would have got on stage Doyle would have killed him. I didn't have to lift a finger. So the guy's throwing his beer cans at me and shit, and Doyle steps in between me and him, cause he's right at the edge of the stage - ready to pull me down. Doyle just steps right in between and looks down at him, and the guy doesn't have any beef with Doyle, he's just trying to get me. Doyle apparently was looking out for me. All Doyle had to do was turn his head and look at the security guard and point to the guy in the audience… and he was gone. Some of the crowd loved me. "You're better than're better than Danzig.." that's very flattering. It was a great compliment for people to come up and praise me for what I had done.

TV: At least you can say that you did it.

MH: Yeah, it looks good on the resume' and it was definitely a good learning experience for me. I got a little bit more exposure out of the whole deal for myself, which is what I intended on doing in the first place. After being in the band two weeks on the European tour, I realized this was not going to last, only because I realized that it's "Jerry's band"…I really had no say whatsoever.

TV: Let's back up to the tour… You did Europe, and South America, and I saw some pictures from down there. It looked like it was a lot of fun. How did it end? How was your last show?

MH: The last show was pretty good actually, I had a good time. It was in Puerto Rico in an outdoor mini-stadium type thing. We had a wrestling match open up for us there was a ring in the center, with barbed wire and they set it on fire… apparently in Puerto Rico, wrestling is really big. So the wrestling match opened up, then a couple of local acts, then we went on, and the crowd got rained on, but it was awesome. I had a good time. Everybody was really nice. Puerto Rico was a lot like America. I was happy to be there after all the other countries… those places are crazy! As soon as we landed in Brazil, we had an 18-hour ride from the airport to the hotel.. and all you saw were fuckin' banana plants for miles!

TV: So, that was the last show, you guys packed up and flew back to the states.. I guess it was a lot of fun to see all those different countries… I mean, you said before that you had to get a passport, so I gather that you've never been out of the states before..

MH: It was pretty damn fun, but I didn't get to see a damn thing while I was out. All I saw was the bus, the hotel and the club. I saw the Eiffel Tower from about 5 miles away, driving away on the bus. Seeing it disappear.. but nothing else.

TV: When you got back to the states, and everything was all said and done, you were unpacking.. then what?

MH: After the South American tour, it was apparent to me that something was going on. It actually got to a point where a couple of members of the band were no longer talking to me. I was so alone, and I had nobody. I literally had nobody. I just didn't know what was gonna happen next. I don't know why I didn't see it coming.. they must have known that they were gonna bring back Graves. I also found out they had Graves convinced to come back the day before we left for Europe. Which means that, if he had showed up, and I would have showed up that day, they would have taken him and he would have sang. So, when I came back from the tour, there was just no communication. I went to rehearsal for two days, and on the third day I called because I was going to be late, and Jerry answers the phone. I said "Hey look I'm going to be a little late.." and Jerry says "Did you talk to Kenny?" - "No" - "Well I guess he didn't tell you yet." - "Tell me what?" - "Well, Doyle's unhappy with your performance and wants to get a new singer.". Just like that. I was in shock. I gave up everything for this band. I cut my hair off, I quit my job, I moved out of my house… so I said "Fine" and hung up. The bottom line is, it comes down to this. I got fired. I didn't quit. I got fired. The reason I tell people that I quit is that there's an entirely too long story behind it, and I am sick of telling everybody. I just say I quit.

TV: I guess that's that. Let’s move in another direction now.. You mentioned to me before that you once hung out with Eerie Von. Tell me about that.

MH: I used to work at PathMark in a town called Fairlawn. The bass player (from Rosemary's babies) used to be this guy who worked in the produce section of PathMark, so we used to hang out at work together. He was insane. He used to go to New York and drive at like 150 miles per hour.. we were petrified! So, one day, he tells me he’s in this band, and introduces me to Eerie, and we all hung out together.

TV: What about the teeth… tell me about those fangs you have.

MH: The fangs only come out when the full (laughs). Otherwise, I keep all of my vampire powers to myself.

TV: Is that part of the stage persona?

MH: No, it’s not like they only come out when I’m onstage.. I’ve been around when they’re out in public, but it always catches people’s attention when you’re onstage and they see you open your mouth wide (motions opening mouth) and they see these fangs. But about them…they’re just part of me. They come and go.

TV: You know, when I first heard of Empire Hideous, and read that it was a "goth" band.. I was really apprehensive about the sound of the band, but it wasn’t at all what I expected. What’s your take on that?

MH: The reason Empire Hideous was classified as a "goth" band was simply because I did a lot of interviews with a lot of magazines that were of the "gothic" style. And they went for me because I wore all black, I had the hat and sang very deep. That’s how we got categorized as a "goth" band – but we are by no means a "goth" band. We’re more "gothic rock". There’s more of a rock element with live drums –

As sirens are heard in the distant, we joke that Myke has been "found"..

TV: They’ve found you Myke…

MH: (laughs) There’s my ride! We were categorized as such, because a lot of the people found me to be "gothic" and I love that style of music, but I knew that Empire Hideous wasn’t like that. We had a very strong gothic following until about 1994, when I did a show at CBGB’s. I had on the front of the stage these stakes that were covered up that you couldn’t see untill the second song. When I unveiled them, and there were two freshly cut pig heads – the whole head!

TV: The WHOLE head?

MH: Yep.

TV: You just <WHACK> cut them right off?

MH: (in defense) I didn’t kill them – I bought them. All of a sudden, it appalled people. I watched as single-file, these gothic kids got up and walked out. They were vegetarian. They said " You know, I’m vegetarian, and I don’t appreciate that…" I didn’t kill them.

TV: You should’ve told them you weren’t eating them.. just using them for show!

MH: Oh, I did.. the next week I was at a show at a club, and as I walked in, people walked away from me. I’m wondering why, you know, and finally someone comes up to me and says (in mocking voice) "You know Myke, I really like your music and everything, but like I can’t really accept the fact that you used pig heads on stage, because I’m vegetarian, and I really don’t agree with that.."

TV: Geez. They’re really into it, eh?

MH: Well, this was probably the fourth person that had come up to me that night and before she could finish I said "Stop – Let me ask you a question.. How many Empire Hideous shows have you been to? Do you have any Empire Hideous CDs? Have you read my lyrics? Don’t you DARE stand in front of me with your f*ckin’ leather choker on your neck, your leather boots, your leather belts and your leather jacket and call tell me that I’m a hypocrite, or that I’m bad because I had two pig heads on stage that I used as props that YOU can’t handle. You and your friends can f*ck yourselves because I don’t need people like you to be my fans. That was the end of that.

TV: Where do you find inspiration for songs?

MH: Everything I write about is from a personal experience, but I developed a technique from various artists that I felt I could learn a lot from. What I did was, I started writing in a way that the reader of the lyrics can interpret it as whatever meaning they want it to be. Essentially, the core of the song does have a meaning from inside that I write about, but it is different for the listener, because they can interpret it anyway they want.

TV: So you get it off your chest, and it’s not like telling your life story?

MH: Yeah, without getting too personal.

TV: Well, I guess that’s about it, Myke.

MH: Wrap it up?

TV: Yep. I guess that’ll do it.

MH: Well, I hope you like the tape I gave you (Act IV- It’s just a matter of time) , and I meant to bring you another, but I brought the wrong one. This is a test pressing of it..

TV: Ahh.. Cyclopean (Jerry’s record label)..

MH: I’ll send it to you in the mail.

TV: Thanks, I appreciate your time for this. Now, maybe if we can get some pictures, and get you to sign a few things for me..

MH: Sure, let’s go outside, if you want.

TV: Will do. I can’t thank you enough for taking some time with me.

And so with that, an interesting afternoon came to a close. I learned a lot about a mysterious band, and about a rogue named Myke Hideous.

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